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I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. System that can not connect: Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 IP Address 192.168.15.2 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 DHCP server 192.168.15.1 DNS server 192.168.15.1 WINS Sever [nothing showing] System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and Local Area Connection) IP Address 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 DHCP server 192.168.1.1 DNS server 68.87.71.266 68.87.73.242 WINS [nothing showing] The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as the other Systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area Connections on System that can not connect show activity Any help would be appreciated. Jim. |
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Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From the control panel select Network connections, right click on your connection and select properties. Double click on internet Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. Good luck. -- Sharon Franks MCC group Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer (MCSD) Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT). "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no results >with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope someone can help >me here. I have not been able to connect one computer with other computers >on home LAN like before. I have tried running network wizard but it errors >out. I can't figure out how to change settings like in Win98 and have >noticed differences in properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems >are on same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. > > I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. > > System that can not connect: > > Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 > > IP Address 192.168.15.2 > Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 > DHCP server 192.168.15.1 > DNS server 192.168.15.1 > WINS Sever [nothing showing] > > > System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and Local > Area Connection) > > IP Address 192.168.1.100 > Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 > DHCP server 192.168.1.1 > DNS server 68.87.71.266 > 68.87.73.242 > WINS [nothing showing] > > > The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as the > other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am correct. All > Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area Connections on System > that can not connect show activity > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Jim. > |
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Sharon Franks wrote: > Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From the > control panel select Network connections, right click on your > connection and select properties. Double click on Internet > Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. > > Good luck. Thanks Sharon. I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user configuration to IP 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has helped. > > > "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message > news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same Subnet >> Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making sence to >> someone as it is not to me. >> >> System that can not connect: >> >> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >> >> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >> >> >> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >> Local Area Connection) >> >> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >> 68.87.73.242 >> WINS [nothing showing] >> >> >> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> |
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On Friday 16 June 2006 02:05 am, Johnathan had this to say in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: > Sharon Franks wrote: >> Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From the >> control panel select Network connections, right click on your >> connection and select properties. Double click on Internet >> Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. >> >> Good luck. > > Thanks Sharon. > I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user configuration to > IP > 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has helped. > Well maybe DHCP has already assigned 192.168.1.101 to another computer on your network? You can usually define the range of DHCP addresses available within your router's configuration, or you can set a particular computer to have a static ip address. Of course, that static ip address has to be a new one not already assigned to some other computer on your network. Why not try assigning a static ip address of say: 192.168.1.200 to your box? Whatever static ip address you choose to use, it should be outside the range of ip address automatically assigned by your router with DHCP. So you'll want to check your router's configuration on this score. If you still don't have success trying a static ip address what I'd do is: - set your box back to obtain ip address automatically - reboot your router so it clears its DHCP cache and reassigns to all boxes. (give all this a chance to happen) > > >> >> >> "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message >> news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >>> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >>> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >>> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >>> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >>> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >>> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same Subnet >>> Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making sence to >>> someone as it is not to me. >>> >>> System that can not connect: >>> >>> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >>> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >>> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >>> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >>> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >>> >>> >>> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >>> Local Area Connection) >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >>> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >>> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >>> 68.87.73.242 >>> WINS [nothing showing] >>> >>> >>> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >>> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >>> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >>> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> -- The ULTIMATE Windoze Fanboy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2370205018226686613 View Some Common Linux Desktops ... http://linclips.crocusplains.com/index.php |
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NoStop wrote: > On Friday 16 June 2006 02:05 am, Johnathan had this to say in > microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: > >> Sharon Franks wrote: >>> Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From the >>> control panel select Network connections, right click on your >>> connection and select properties. Double click on Internet >>> Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. >>> >>> Good luck. >> >> Thanks Sharon. >> I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user >> configuration to IP >> 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has >> helped. >> > Well maybe DHCP has already assigned 192.168.1.101 to another > computer on your network? > > You can usually define the range of DHCP addresses available within > your router's configuration, or you can set a particular computer to > have a static ip address. Of course, that static ip address has to be > a new one not already assigned to some other computer on your > network. Why not try assigning a static ip address of say: > 192.168.1.200 to your box? > > Whatever static ip address you choose to use, it should be outside > the range of ip address automatically assigned by your router with > DHCP. So you'll want to check your router's configuration on this > score. > > If you still don't have success trying a static ip address what I'd > do is: > > - set your box back to obtain ip address automatically > - reboot your router so it clears its DHCP cache and reassigns to all > boxes. (give all this a chance to happen) I have been trying all morning and have tried many different IP addresses with the same negative results. I have tried rebooting router and modem. I have still come up with nothing new. It is like my IP has been hijacked. I have tried deleting temp files and ran virus and malware/adware/spyware applications and still a big NOT. The only thing I can think of next would be to somehow disable onboard NIC and install a PCI card if I thought this would work. Do you have any thoughts on this idea? Is it possible to disable NIC in BIOS? > >> >> >>> >>> >>> "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message >>> news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >>>> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >>>> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >>>> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >>>> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >>>> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >>>> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same >>>> Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making >>>> sence to someone as it is not to me. >>>> >>>> System that can not connect: >>>> >>>> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >>>> >>>> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >>>> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >>>> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >>>> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >>>> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >>>> >>>> >>>> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >>>> Local Area Connection) >>>> >>>> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >>>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >>>> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >>>> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >>>> 68.87.73.242 >>>> WINS [nothing showing] >>>> >>>> >>>> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >>>> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >>>> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >>>> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >>>> >>>> Any help would be appreciated. |
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On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:06 pm, Johnathan had this to say in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: > NoStop wrote: >> On Friday 16 June 2006 02:05 am, Johnathan had this to say in >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: >> >>> Sharon Franks wrote: >>>> Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From the >>>> control panel select Network connections, right click on your >>>> connection and select properties. Double click on Internet >>>> Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. >>>> >>>> Good luck. >>> >>> Thanks Sharon. >>> I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user >>> configuration to IP >>> 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has >>> helped. >>> >> Well maybe DHCP has already assigned 192.168.1.101 to another >> computer on your network? >> >> You can usually define the range of DHCP addresses available within >> your router's configuration, or you can set a particular computer to >> have a static ip address. Of course, that static ip address has to be >> a new one not already assigned to some other computer on your >> network. Why not try assigning a static ip address of say: >> 192.168.1.200 to your box? >> >> Whatever static ip address you choose to use, it should be outside >> the range of ip address automatically assigned by your router with >> DHCP. So you'll want to check your router's configuration on this >> score. >> >> If you still don't have success trying a static ip address what I'd >> do is: >> >> - set your box back to obtain ip address automatically >> - reboot your router so it clears its DHCP cache and reassigns to all >> boxes. (give all this a chance to happen) > > I have been trying all morning and have tried many different IP addresses > with the same negative results. I have tried rebooting router and modem. I > have still come up with nothing new. It is like my IP has been hijacked. I > have tried deleting temp files and ran virus and malware/adware/spyware > applications and still a big NOT. The only thing I can think of next would > be to somehow disable onboard NIC and install a PCI card if I thought this > would work. Do you have any thoughts on this idea? Is it possible to > disable NIC in BIOS? > Maybe your BIOS has that function? Not sure. But you can certainly disable the onboard NIC within Windoze. I wonder if you have a driver problem? Have you tried installing the latest driver for your onboard NIC? That should be available from your motherboard distributor. -- The ULTIMATE Windoze Fanboy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2370205018226686613 View Some Common Linux Desktops ... http://linclips.crocusplains.com/index.php |
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On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:06 pm, Johnathan had this to say in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: > NoStop wrote: >> On Friday 16 June 2006 02:05 am, Johnathan had this to say in >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: >> >>> Sharon Franks wrote: >>>> Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From the >>>> control panel select Network connections, right click on your >>>> connection and select properties. Double click on Internet >>>> Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. >>>> >>>> Good luck. >>> >>> Thanks Sharon. >>> I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user >>> configuration to IP >>> 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has >>> helped. >>> >> Well maybe DHCP has already assigned 192.168.1.101 to another >> computer on your network? >> >> You can usually define the range of DHCP addresses available within >> your router's configuration, or you can set a particular computer to >> have a static ip address. Of course, that static ip address has to be >> a new one not already assigned to some other computer on your >> network. Why not try assigning a static ip address of say: >> 192.168.1.200 to your box? >> >> Whatever static ip address you choose to use, it should be outside >> the range of ip address automatically assigned by your router with >> DHCP. So you'll want to check your router's configuration on this >> score. >> >> If you still don't have success trying a static ip address what I'd >> do is: >> >> - set your box back to obtain ip address automatically >> - reboot your router so it clears its DHCP cache and reassigns to all >> boxes. (give all this a chance to happen) > > I have been trying all morning and have tried many different IP addresses > with the same negative results. I have tried rebooting router and modem. I > have still come up with nothing new. It is like my IP has been hijacked. I > have tried deleting temp files and ran virus and malware/adware/spyware > applications and still a big NOT. The only thing I can think of next would > be to somehow disable onboard NIC and install a PCI card if I thought this > would work. Do you have any thoughts on this idea? Is it possible to > disable NIC in BIOS? > > Thinking more about your prob. Have you tried to release the NIC's ip address? Try this at a cmd prompt: ipconfig /release and then reboot your computer. Upon reboot, your router should assign a new ip address to your NIC. Also, can you login to your router from the affected computer? If not, have you concerned the possibility the cable is bad? You can borrow a cable from another box and see if that makes any difference. Sorry, not knowing exactly what you've tried so far to troubleshoot this problem, leaves me sort of grasping at possible straws. -- The ULTIMATE Windoze Fanboy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2370205018226686613 View Some Common Linux Desktops ... http://linclips.crocusplains.com/index.php |
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NoStop wrote: > On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:06 pm, Johnathan had this to say in > microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: > >> NoStop wrote: >>> On Friday 16 June 2006 02:05 am, Johnathan had this to say in >>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: >>> >>>> Sharon Franks wrote: >>>>> Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From >>>>> the control panel select Network connections, right click on your >>>>> connection and select properties. Double click on Internet >>>>> Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck. >>>> >>>> Thanks Sharon. >>>> I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user >>>> configuration to IP >>>> 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has >>>> helped. >>>> >>> Well maybe DHCP has already assigned 192.168.1.101 to another >>> computer on your network? >>> >>> You can usually define the range of DHCP addresses available within >>> your router's configuration, or you can set a particular computer to >>> have a static ip address. Of course, that static ip address has to >>> be a new one not already assigned to some other computer on your >>> network. Why not try assigning a static ip address of say: >>> 192.168.1.200 to your box? >>> >>> Whatever static ip address you choose to use, it should be outside >>> the range of ip address automatically assigned by your router with >>> DHCP. So you'll want to check your router's configuration on this >>> score. >>> >>> If you still don't have success trying a static ip address what I'd >>> do is: >>> >>> - set your box back to obtain ip address automatically >>> - reboot your router so it clears its DHCP cache and reassigns to >>> all boxes. (give all this a chance to happen) >> >> I have been trying all morning and have tried many different IP >> addresses with the same negative results. I have tried rebooting >> router and modem. I have still come up with nothing new. It is like >> my IP has been hijacked. I have tried deleting temp files and ran >> virus and malware/adware/spyware applications and still a big NOT. >> The only thing I can think of next would be to somehow disable >> onboard NIC and install a PCI card if I thought this would work. Do >> you have any thoughts on this idea? Is it possible to disable NIC in >> BIOS? >> >> > Thinking more about your prob. > > Have you tried to release the NIC's ip address? Try this at a cmd > prompt: > > ipconfig /release > > and then reboot your computer. Upon reboot, your router should assign > a new ip address to your NIC. > > Also, can you login to your router from the affected computer? If > not, have you concerned the possibility the cable is bad? You can > borrow a cable from another box and see if that makes any difference. > > Sorry, not knowing exactly what you've tried so far to troubleshoot > this problem, leaves me sort of grasping at possible straws. Don't apologize, please. I am very grateful that you are working with me. So many have left this and other posts on other groups as I feel they have given up. I can Log on to router and all seems well. I have not tried another cable as I do have connectivity every time I leave the settings as they are now and am posting from that System now. I am still concerned about the inability to see a screen when type ipconfig /all but this happens on both Systems. I liked it when things were the way they were with Win98. Seemed much easier that way. I have typed ipconfig /release but this did not change anything. I guess I will be adding another NIC. Probably the first thing in the AM tomorrow. Really getting tired of this problem hanging in. I did try to update the NIC driver but it did not work for some reason. I will try that again just for the fun of it. |
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NoStop wrote: > On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:06 pm, Johnathan had this to say in > microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: > >> NoStop wrote: >>> On Friday 16 June 2006 02:05 am, Johnathan had this to say in >>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: >>> >>>> Sharon Franks wrote: >>>>> Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From >>>>> the control panel select Network connections, right click on your >>>>> connection and select properties. Double click on Internet >>>>> Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck. >>>> >>>> Thanks Sharon. >>>> I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user >>>> configuration to IP >>>> 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has >>>> helped. >>>> >>> Well maybe DHCP has already assigned 192.168.1.101 to another >>> computer on your network? >>> >>> You can usually define the range of DHCP addresses available within >>> your router's configuration, or you can set a particular computer to >>> have a static ip address. Of course, that static ip address has to >>> be a new one not already assigned to some other computer on your >>> network. Why not try assigning a static ip address of say: >>> 192.168.1.200 to your box? >>> >>> Whatever static ip address you choose to use, it should be outside >>> the range of ip address automatically assigned by your router with >>> DHCP. So you'll want to check your router's configuration on this >>> score. >>> >>> If you still don't have success trying a static ip address what I'd >>> do is: >>> >>> - set your box back to obtain ip address automatically >>> - reboot your router so it clears its DHCP cache and reassigns to >>> all boxes. (give all this a chance to happen) >> >> I have been trying all morning and have tried many different IP >> addresses with the same negative results. I have tried rebooting >> router and modem. I have still come up with nothing new. It is like >> my IP has been hijacked. I have tried deleting temp files and ran >> virus and malware/adware/spyware applications and still a big NOT. >> The only thing I can think of next would be to somehow disable >> onboard NIC and install a PCI card if I thought this would work. Do >> you have any thoughts on this idea? Is it possible to disable NIC in >> BIOS? >> >> > Thinking more about your prob. > > Have you tried to release the NIC's ip address? Try this at a cmd > prompt: > > ipconfig /release > > and then reboot your computer. Upon reboot, your router should assign > a new ip address to your NIC. > > Also, can you login to your router from the affected computer? If > not, have you concerned the possibility the cable is bad? You can > borrow a cable from another box and see if that makes any difference. > > Sorry, not knowing exactly what you've tried so far to troubleshoot > this problem, leaves me sort of grasping at possible straws. OK. Problem solved. There was one thing that I just discovered that I failed to recognized that was the unknown factor with this that has been totally STUPID on my part. The key word here is VONAGE. The whole problem arrived now that I remember when I installed Vonage VOIP router as directed. The addition of the Vonage router inline with the original Lynksys router. The cable going to the System in question was connected through the Vonage router and not even connected to the Lynksys router. Tracing the wires disclosed this and now makes all the sence in the world. I connected the other systems to the Vonage router and all is well. I guess I could connect Vonage VOIP service through the Lynksys router and not even use the Vonage router not understanding that the Vonage router is just an ordinary router and not specific to Vonage VOIP. I guess I am more stupid that I originally thought(Slap myself here over and over). Now I must return to other posts to finalize everything for the sake of Google and the others that have been so kind to assist me through my ordeal. Many thanks to all involved in this thread and especially to you NoStop for hanging in. Thanks to Sandgroper. Thanks to Sharon Franks. Thanks to Malke. Thanks to Og. Thanks to R. McCarty. Thanks to Mike Fields. Regards to all. J. |
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Johnathan wrote: > NoStop wrote: >> On Saturday 17 June 2006 12:06 pm, Johnathan had this to say in >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: >> >>> NoStop wrote: >>>> On Friday 16 June 2006 02:05 am, Johnathan had this to say in >>>> microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: >>>> >>>>> Sharon Franks wrote: >>>>>> Well first you need admin rights to change those settings. From >>>>>> the control panel select Network connections, right click on your >>>>>> connection and select properties. Double click on Internet >>>>>> Protocol(tcp/ip) you may have to scroll to see it. There you go. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Sharon. >>>>> I am logged on with Admin rights. I have changed user >>>>> configuration to IP >>>>> 192.168.1.101 and default gateway to 192.168.1.1 but nothing has >>>>> helped. >>>>> >>>> Well maybe DHCP has already assigned 192.168.1.101 to another >>>> computer on your network? >>>> >>>> You can usually define the range of DHCP addresses available within >>>> your router's configuration, or you can set a particular computer >>>> to have a static ip address. Of course, that static ip address has >>>> to be a new one not already assigned to some other computer on your >>>> network. Why not try assigning a static ip address of say: >>>> 192.168.1.200 to your box? >>>> >>>> Whatever static ip address you choose to use, it should be outside >>>> the range of ip address automatically assigned by your router with >>>> DHCP. So you'll want to check your router's configuration on this >>>> score. >>>> >>>> If you still don't have success trying a static ip address what I'd >>>> do is: >>>> >>>> - set your box back to obtain ip address automatically >>>> - reboot your router so it clears its DHCP cache and reassigns to >>>> all boxes. (give all this a chance to happen) >>> >>> I have been trying all morning and have tried many different IP >>> addresses with the same negative results. I have tried rebooting >>> router and modem. I have still come up with nothing new. It is like >>> my IP has been hijacked. I have tried deleting temp files and ran >>> virus and malware/adware/spyware applications and still a big NOT. >>> The only thing I can think of next would be to somehow disable >>> onboard NIC and install a PCI card if I thought this would work. Do >>> you have any thoughts on this idea? Is it possible to disable NIC in >>> BIOS? >>> >>> >> Thinking more about your prob. >> >> Have you tried to release the NIC's ip address? Try this at a cmd >> prompt: >> >> ipconfig /release >> >> and then reboot your computer. Upon reboot, your router should assign >> a new ip address to your NIC. >> >> Also, can you login to your router from the affected computer? If >> not, have you concerned the possibility the cable is bad? You can >> borrow a cable from another box and see if that makes any difference. >> >> Sorry, not knowing exactly what you've tried so far to troubleshoot >> this problem, leaves me sort of grasping at possible straws. > > OK. Problem solved. There was one thing that I just discovered that I > failed to recognized that was the unknown factor with this that has > been totally STUPID on my part. The key word here is VONAGE. The whole > problem arrived now that I remember when I installed Vonage VOIP > router as directed. The addition of the Vonage router inline with the > original Lynksys router. The cable going to the System in question was > connected through the Vonage router and not even connected to the > Lynksys router. Tracing the wires disclosed this and now makes all the > sence in the world. I connected the other systems to the Vonage router > and all is well. I guess I could connect Vonage VOIP service through > the Lynksys router and not even use the Vonage router not > understanding that the Vonage router is just an ordinary router and > not specific to Vonage VOIP. > > I guess I am more stupid that I originally thought(Slap myself here > over > and over). Now I must return to other posts to finalize everything for > the sake of Google and the others that have been so kind to assist me > through my ordeal. > > Many thanks to all involved in this thread and especially to you > NoStop for > hanging in. > Thanks to Sandgroper. Thanks to Sharon Franks. Thanks to Malke. > Thanks to > Og. Thanks to R. McCarty. Thanks to Mike Fields. > > Regards to all. > > J. You're welcome. It took a big person to come back and admit that the problem was caused by user Error, so bravo to you! We've all been there. Even professional techs have those "is it plugged in?" moments so don't feel bad at all. Thank you for taking the time to tell us what happened. Malke -- MS-MVP windows Shell/User Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic" |
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"Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no results >with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope someone can help >me here. I have not been able to connect one computer with other computers >on home LAN like before. I have tried running network wizard but it errors >out. I can't figure out how to change settings like in Win98 and have >noticed differences in properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems >are on same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. > > I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. > > System that can not connect: > > Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 > > IP Address 192.168.15.2 > Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 > DHCP server 192.168.15.1 > DNS server 192.168.15.1 > WINS Sever [nothing showing] > > > System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and Local > Area Connection) > > IP Address 192.168.1.100 > Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 > DHCP server 192.168.1.1 > DNS server 68.87.71.266 > 68.87.73.242 > WINS [nothing showing] > > > The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as the > other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am correct. All > Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area Connections on System > that can not connect show activity A bit more info would help. What is the configuration of your Lan , meaning how many machines you have on the home network and how are you connected to your ISP , are you running a proxy server. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ True Multitasking is having three computers and a chair with wheels. Sandgroper ------------------------------------ Remove KNICKERS to Email steveray@KNICKERSiinet.net.au |
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Sandgroper wrote: > "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message > news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same Subnet >> Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making sence to >> someone as it is not to me. >> >> System that can not connect: >> >> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >> >> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >> >> >> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >> Local Area Connection) >> >> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >> 68.87.73.242 >> WINS [nothing showing] >> >> >> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >> Connections on System that can not connect show activity > > A bit more info would help. > What is the configuration of your Lan , meaning how many machines you > have on the home network and how are you connected to your ISP , are > you running a proxy server. Thank you for responding Sandgroper. I have three machines on my network at this time and I am not running a proxy server. |
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Johnathan wrote: > I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no > results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope > someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one computer > with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried running > network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to change > settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in properties of > Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on > same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. > > I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. > > System that can not connect: > > Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 > > IP Address 192.168.15.2 > Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 > DHCP server 192.168.15.1 > DNS server 192.168.15.1 > WINS Sever [nothing showing] > > > System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and > Local Area Connection) > > IP Address 192.168.1.100 > Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 > DHCP server 192.168.1.1 > DNS server 68.87.71.266 > 68.87.73.242 > WINS [nothing showing] > > > The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as the > other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am correct. > All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area Connections on > System that can not connect show activity Go to the Network applet in Control Panel. Opening it should show you the Local Area Connection icon. Right-click on it and then left-click on Properties. Find the TCP/IP setting in the "windows" and double-click it to get its properties. Either set it to get its IP address from DHCP or manually assign it an IP address, etc. that is 192.168.1.[some-number]. Use the 192.168.1.1 as Default Gateway. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP windows - Shell/User |
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Malke wrote: > Johnathan wrote: > >> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on >> same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. >> >> I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. >> >> System that can not connect: >> >> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >> >> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >> >> >> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >> Local Area Connection) >> >> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >> 68.87.73.242 >> WINS [nothing showing] >> >> >> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >> Connections on System that can not connect show activity > > Go to the Network applet in Control Panel. Opening it should show you > the Local Area Connection icon. Right-click on it and then left-click > on Properties. > > Find the TCP/IP setting in the "windows" and double-click it to get > its properties. Either set it to get its IP address from DHCP or > manually assign it an IP address, etc. that is > 192.168.1.[some-number]. Use the 192.168.1.1 as Default Gateway. > > Malke I am still not having good luck here. If I change settings to what seem to be correct as suggested the System will not even connect to internet and another will not connect to network. Only when I change the setting back will I get connectivity to internet and other system will then connect back to network. Both System and laptop connect and show the two DNS servers as being the same. If I try to get all systems at the same settings is when I have the problems. I am still very confused even as I type. I have tried to use system restore on this one system that will not connect to network but that is now not working. I can not remove network card as it is onboard. I tried updating driver but that didn't seem to help either. I don't have a basic understanding of network functions so all I can do is try changing settings again and again tying to get them right. No joy. |
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"Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message news:%23L5bFhSkGHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Malke wrote: >> Johnathan wrote: >> >>> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >>> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >>> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >>> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >>> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >>> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >>> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on >>> same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. >>> >>> I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. >>> >>> System that can not connect: >>> >>> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >>> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >>> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >>> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >>> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >>> >>> >>> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >>> Local Area Connection) >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >>> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >>> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >>> 68.87.73.242 >>> WINS [nothing showing] >>> >>> >>> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >>> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >>> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >>> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >> >> Go to the Network applet in Control Panel. Opening it should show you >> the Local Area Connection icon. Right-click on it and then left-click >> on Properties. >> >> Find the TCP/IP setting in the "windows" and double-click it to get >> its properties. Either set it to get its IP address from DHCP or >> manually assign it an IP address, etc. that is >> 192.168.1.[some-number]. Use the 192.168.1.1 as Default Gateway. >> >> Malke > > I am still not having good luck here. If I change settings to what > seem to be correct as suggested the System will not even connect to > internet and another will not connect to network. Only when I change > the setting back will I get connectivity to internet and other system > will then connect back to network. Both System and laptop connect and > show the two DNS servers as being the same. If I try to get all > systems at the same settings is when I have the problems. I am still > very confused even as I type. I have tried to use system restore on > this one system that will not connect to network but that is now not > working. I can not remove network card as it is onboard. I tried > updating driver but that didn't seem to help either. I don't have a > basic understanding of network functions so all I can do is try > changing settings again and again tying to get them right. No joy. > Right off the top, "the system 3" and "system 4" are not even on the same network. The one network is 192.168.1.x (with the 255.255.255.0 subnet mask) while the other network is 192.168.15.x (also using 255.255.255.0 as a subnet mask). Those are two different networks. System 3 needs to be on the 192.168.1.x network somewhere for them to be able to talk ("x" should be somewhere between 2 and 253 and not the same as any other machine on the network for them to be considered part of the same network) mikey |
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>>> >>>> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >>>> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >>>> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >>>> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >>>> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >>>> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >>>> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on >>>> same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. >>>> >>>> I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. >>>> >>>> System that can not connect: >>>> >>>> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >>>> >>>> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >>>> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >>>> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >>>> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >>>> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >>>> >>>> >>>> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >>>> Local Area Connection) >>>> >>>> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >>>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >>>> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >>>> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >>>> 68.87.73.242 >>>> WINS [nothing showing] >>>> >>>> >>>> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >>>> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >>>> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >>>> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >>> >>> Go to the Network applet in Control Panel. Opening it should show >>> you the Local Area Connection icon. Right-click on it and then >>> left-click on Properties. >>> >>> Find the TCP/IP setting in the "windows" and double-click it to get >>> its properties. Either set it to get its IP address from DHCP or >>> manually assign it an IP address, etc. that is >>> 192.168.1.[some-number]. Use the 192.168.1.1 as Default Gateway. >>> >>> Malke >> >> I am still not having good luck here. If I change settings to what >> seem to be correct as suggested the System will not even connect to >> internet and another will not connect to network. Only when I change >> the setting back will I get connectivity to internet and other system >> will then connect back to network. Both System and laptop connect and >> show the two DNS servers as being the same. If I try to get all >> systems at the same settings is when I have the problems. I am still >> very confused even as I type. I have tried to use system restore on >> this one system that will not connect to network but that is now not >> working. I can not remove network card as it is onboard. I tried >> updating driver but that didn't seem to help either. I don't have a >> basic understanding of network functions so all I can do is try >> changing settings again and again tying to get them right. No joy. >> > > Right off the top, "the system 3" and "system 4" are not > even on the same network. The one network is 192.168.1.x > (with the 255.255.255.0 subnet mask) while the other > network is 192.168.15.x (also using 255.255.255.0 as > a subnet mask). Those are two different networks. > System 3 needs to be on the 192.168.1.x network > somewhere for them to be able to talk ("x" should > be somewhere between 2 and 253 and not the same > as any other machine on the network for them to > be considered part of the same network) > > mikey OK. Now I understand. I was confused by the two other systems that connect that have the two sets of DNS Servers. I think this might have happened when I installed a Lynksys Wireless-G Print server that only works when it is connected to one System with a cable and not wireless any longer. I have tried to reconfigure the System that has IP of 192.168.15.2. I remember from Win98 I could type IPCONFIG and view settings but not so in XP Pro. The screen shows and vanishes in a flash. When I make changes to IP to 192.168.1.110 I can open Netmeeting and see that it reflects the new IP but I can no longer connect to the internet or outlook Express. I am using a Lynksys Wireless-G router that has been working fine for a few years now since it was new. I have tried everything I can think of many times and have not been successful. I can no longer use system restore but this might be a different problem but I am not sure. I thought of uninstalling Wireless Print server and running Network Wizard but I am at a loss how to uninstall and reinstall. The NIC is onboard. Thank you if you can add anything I might have missed that needs to be done. |
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According to your data, your computers are on entirely different subnets and will never talk to each other (without a router). IP Address 192.168.1.100 IP Address 192.168.15.2 Either use 192.168.001.xxx for all computers, Else use 192.168.015.xxx for all computers. Steve "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no results >with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope someone can help >me here. I have not been able to connect one computer with other computers >on home LAN like before. I have tried running network wizard but it errors >out. I can't figure out how to change settings like in Win98 and have >noticed differences in properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems >are on same Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. > > I hope this is making sence to someone as it is not to me. > > System that can not connect: > > Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 > > IP Address 192.168.15.2 > Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 > DHCP server 192.168.15.1 > DNS server 192.168.15.1 > WINS Sever [nothing showing] > > > System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and Local > Area Connection) > > IP Address 192.168.1.100 > Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 > DHCP server 192.168.1.1 > DNS server 68.87.71.266 > 68.87.73.242 > WINS [nothing showing] > > > The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as the > other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am correct. All > Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area Connections on System > that can not connect show activity > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Jim. > |
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Og wrote: > According to your data, your computers are on entirely different > subnets and will never talk to each other (without a router). > > IP Address 192.168.1.100 > > IP Address 192.168.15.2 > > Either use 192.168.001.xxx for all computers, > > Else use 192.168.015.xxx for all computers. > > Steve I am using a router. I am unable to Log on as I no longer know the password. Would resetting the router and Log on enable me to make changes that will remedy this problem? > > "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message > news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same Subnet >> Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making sence to >> someone as it is not to me. >> >> System that can not connect: >> >> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >> >> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >> >> >> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >> Local Area Connection) >> >> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >> 68.87.73.242 >> WINS [nothing showing] >> >> >> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Jim. |
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Unless specifically changed - ALL routers (by vendor) use a generic User/Password combination. Check the manual or visit the vendor website to obtain your unit's default values. You can always do a factory reset - but that removes all custom settings. "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message news:enpjcuWkGHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Og wrote: >> According to your data, your computers are on entirely different >> subnets and will never talk to each other (without a router). >> >> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >> >> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >> >> Either use 192.168.001.xxx for all computers, >> >> Else use 192.168.015.xxx for all computers. >> >> Steve > > I am using a router. I am unable to Log on as I no longer know the > password. Would resetting the router and Log on enable me to make changes > that will remedy this problem? > > > > > > >> >> "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message >> news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >>> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >>> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >>> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >>> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >>> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >>> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same Subnet >>> Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making sence to >>> someone as it is not to me. >>> >>> System that can not connect: >>> >>> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >>> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >>> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >>> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >>> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >>> >>> >>> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >>> Local Area Connection) >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >>> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >>> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >>> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >>> 68.87.73.242 >>> WINS [nothing showing] >>> >>> >>> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >>> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >>> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >>> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> Jim. > > |
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R. McCarty wrote: > Unless specifically changed - ALL routers (by vendor) use a generic > User/Password combination. Check the manual or visit the vendor > website to obtain your unit's default values. You can always do a > factory reset - but that removes all custom settings. > I do remember changing the password at one time but have since forgotten it. I have no idea why I ever thought I would need to change it to start with. I am pretty sure there were no settings I needed to change other that port forwarding. I am trying to avoid resetting it if I can fix this problem otherwise. > "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message > news:enpjcuWkGHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Og wrote: >>> According to your data, your computers are on entirely different >>> subnets and will never talk to each other (without a router). >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >>> >>> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >>> >>> Either use 192.168.001.xxx for all computers, >>> >>> Else use 192.168.015.xxx for all computers. >>> >>> Steve >> >> I am using a router. I am unable to Log on as I no longer know the >> password. Would resetting the router and Log on enable me to make >> changes that will remedy this problem? >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message >>> news:u8%23GBaOkGHA.4884@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> I have tried network groups with no response and Google with no >>>> results with this problem that I have had for months now so I hope >>>> someone can help me here. I have not been able to connect one >>>> computer with other computers on home LAN like before. I have tried >>>> running network wizard but it errors out. I can't figure out how to >>>> change settings like in Win98 and have noticed differences in >>>> properties of Local Area Connections 3. All systems are on same >>>> Subnet Mask and workgroups are identical. I hope this is making >>>> sence to someone as it is not to me. >>>> >>>> System that can not connect: >>>> >>>> Network Connection Details Local Area Connection 3 >>>> >>>> IP Address 192.168.15.2 >>>> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway 192.168.15.1 >>>> DHCP server 192.168.15.1 >>>> DNS server 192.168.15.1 >>>> WINS Sever [nothing showing] >>>> >>>> >>>> System that can connect and Laptop: (Local Area Connection 4 and >>>> Local Area Connection) >>>> >>>> IP Address 192.168.1.100 >>>> Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 >>>> Default Gateway 192.168.1.1 >>>> DHCP server 192.168.1.1 >>>> DNS server 68.87.71.266 >>>> 68.87.73.242 >>>> WINS [nothing showing] >>>> >>>> >>>> The System that can not connect needs to be changed to the same as >>>> the other systems but I can not figure out how to do this if I am >>>> correct. All Advanced TCP/IP settings are the same. Local Area >>>> Connections on System that can not connect show activity >>>> >>>> Any help would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> Jim. |
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"Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message news:u3YUg6WkGHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > R. McCarty wrote: >> Unless specifically changed - ALL routers (by vendor) use a generic >> User/Password combination. Check the manual or visit the vendor >> website to obtain your unit's default values. You can always do a >> factory reset - but that removes all custom settings. >> > I do remember changing the password at one time but have since > forgotten it. I have no idea why I ever thought I would need to change > it to start with. I am pretty sure there were no settings I needed to > change other that port forwarding. I am trying to avoid resetting it > if I can fix this problem otherwise. > Always a good idea to change the default passwords on router type things ... especially if wireless is involved - notice that funny car parked out front with the Pringles can pointed at your house ?? Nothing quite like "drive by networking" - you might look in the router manual and see if you were clever enough to write the password there. First rule of passwords -- NEVER change them before the weekend, vacation or whatever - no matter how "easy" it seems at the time, all clues will be lost when you come back ;-) If you can't find the router manual, you can go to the mfgrs website usually and download a copy of the manual. Might even be a good time to update it to the latest firmware .... well, maybe after you get the rest of this working. Bottom line, unless they are going thru a router, all devices on your local network MUST be on the same subnet or they will NOT talk to each other. Trick to networking is to check out one portion at a time and get it working then move on to the next - trying to fix everything at once won't usually work. In this case, your network address is the 192.168.2.0 and the host id's on that address will be 0-255 ... sort of. The "0" is actually reserved as the network address, 255 is the broadcast address and in your case, 1 is the host address of the LAN side of the router so 2-253 is the ones your other devices should use. mikey |
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Mike Fields wrote: > "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message > news:u3YUg6WkGHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> R. McCarty wrote: >>> Unless specifically changed - ALL routers (by vendor) use a generic >>> User/Password combination. Check the manual or visit the vendor >>> website to obtain your unit's default values. You can always do a >>> factory reset - but that removes all custom settings. >>> >> I do remember changing the password at one time but have since >> forgotten it. I have no idea why I ever thought I would need to >> change it to start with. I am pretty sure there were no settings I >> needed to change other that port forwarding. I am trying to avoid >> resetting it if I can fix this problem otherwise. >> > > > Always a good idea to change the default passwords on > router type things ... especially if wireless is involved - notice > that funny car parked out front with the Pringles can > pointed at your house ?? Nothing quite like > "drive by networking" - you might look in the router manual > and see if you were clever enough to write the password > there. First rule of passwords -- NEVER change them > before the weekend, vacation or whatever - no matter > how "easy" it seems at the time, all clues will be lost when > you come back ;-) If you can't find the router manual, > you can go to the mfgrs website usually and download > a copy of the manual. Might even be a good time to > update it to the latest firmware .... well, maybe after > you get the rest of this working. Bottom line, unless > they are going thru a router, all devices on your local > network MUST be on the same subnet or they will NOT > talk to each other. Trick to networking is to check out > one portion at a time and get it working then move on > to the next - trying to fix everything at once won't usually > work. In this case, your network address is the 192.168.2.0 > and the host id's on that address will be 0-255 ... sort of. > The "0" is actually reserved as the network address, 255 > is the broadcast address and in your case, 1 is the host > address of the LAN side of the router so 2-253 is the > ones your other devices should use. > > mikey I have only one mission for now and that is to get the one System back on the same network by changing the IP which is still something that I am unable to do and have it work. If I am not able to log on by resetting the router will this enable me to effect the changes I need? |
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"Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message news:eLTUPVYkGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Mike Fields wrote: >> "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message >> news:u3YUg6WkGHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> R. McCarty wrote: >>>> Unless specifically changed - ALL routers (by vendor) use a generic >>>> User/Password combination. Check the manual or visit the vendor >>>> website to obtain your unit's default values. You can always do a >>>> factory reset - but that removes all custom settings. >>>> >>> I do remember changing the password at one time but have since >>> forgotten it. I have no idea why I ever thought I would need to >>> change it to start with. I am pretty sure there were no settings I >>> needed to change other that port forwarding. I am trying to avoid >>> resetting it if I can fix this problem otherwise. >>> >> >> >> Always a good idea to change the default passwords on >> router type things ... especially if wireless is involved - notice >> that funny car parked out front with the Pringles can >> pointed at your house ?? Nothing quite like >> "drive by networking" - you might look in the router manual >> and see if you were clever enough to write the password >> there. First rule of passwords -- NEVER change them >> before the weekend, vacation or whatever - no matter >> how "easy" it seems at the time, all clues will be lost when >> you come back ;-) If you can't find the router manual, >> you can go to the mfgrs website usually and download >> a copy of the manual. Might even be a good time to >> update it to the latest firmware .... well, maybe after >> you get the rest of this working. Bottom line, unless >> they are going thru a router, all devices on your local >> network MUST be on the same subnet or they will NOT >> talk to each other. Trick to networking is to check out >> one portion at a time and get it working then move on >> to the next - trying to fix everything at once won't usually >> work. In this case, your network address is the 192.168.2.0 >> and the host id's on that address will be 0-255 ... sort of. >> The "0" is actually reserved as the network address, 255 >> is the broadcast address and in your case, 1 is the host >> address of the LAN side of the router so 2-253 is the >> ones your other devices should use. >> >> mikey > > I have only one mission for now and that is to get the one System back > on the same network by changing the IP which is still something that I > am unable to do and have it work. If I am not able to log on by > resetting the router will this enable me to effect the changes I need? > I have forgotten exactly how it was setup, but in XP with admin priv. you can go to start -> control panel -> network connections-> local area connection then click on the general tab (probably there already), click on the "internet protocol (TCP/IP)" line and select the "Properties" button. (There are also about 6 other ways to get there). If it is set to "Obtain an IP address automatically", something in your network is handing out that address via DHCP. If it is set to "Use the following IP address", you can set the IP address to what you want it to be for your network and it should set to that IP address. mikey |
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Mike Fields wrote: > "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message > news:eLTUPVYkGHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Mike Fields wrote: >>> "Johnathan" <cliffwild@spamex.com> wrote in message >>> news:u3YUg6WkGHA.4200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> R. McCarty wrote: >>>>> Unless specifically changed - ALL routers (by vendor) use a >>>>> generic User/Password combination. Check the manual or visit the >>>>> vendor website to obtain your unit's default values. You can >>>>> always do a factory reset - but that removes all custom settings. >>>>> >>>> I do remember changing the password at one time but have since >>>> forgotten it. I have no idea why I ever thought I would need to >>>> change it to start with. I am pretty sure there were no settings I >>>> needed to change other that port forwarding. I am trying to avoid >>>> resetting it if I can fix this problem otherwise. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Always a good idea to change the default passwords on >>> router type things ... especially if wireless is involved - notice >>> that funny car parked out front with the Pringles can >>> pointed at your house ?? Nothing quite like >>> "drive by networking" - you might look in the router manual >>> and see if you were clever enough to write the password >>> there. First rule of passwords -- NEVER change them >>> before the weekend, vacation or whatever - no matter >>> how "easy" it seems at the time, all clues will be lost when >>> you come back ;-) If you can't find the router manual, >>> you can go to the mfgrs website usually and download >>> a copy of the manual. Might even be a good time to >>> update it to the latest firmware .... well, maybe after >>> you get the rest of this working. Bottom line, unless >>> they are going thru a router, all devices on your local >>> network MUST be on the same subnet or they will NOT >>> talk to each other. Trick to networking is to check out >>> one portion at a time and get it working then move on >>> to the next - trying to fix everything at once won't usually >>> work. In this case, your network address is the 192.168.2.0 >>> and the host id's on that address will be 0-255 ... sort of. >>> The "0" is actually reserved as the network address, 255 >>> is the broadcast address and in your case, 1 is the host >>> address of the LAN side of the router so 2-253 is the >>> ones your other devices should use. >>> >>> mikey Ok, I finally managed to get onto Router as I remembered the PW. I have no idea what I am looking for and don't really believe the changes that took place have anything to do with the router anyway. I have tried configuring new IP to respond to the other systems but this only blocked access to internet. I just can not get this computer off that IP 192.168.15.x and back to 192.168.1.x no matter what I do. I am missing something here for sure. >> >> I have only one mission for now and that is to get the one System >> back on the same network by changing the IP which is still something >> that I am unable to do and have it work. If I am not able to log on >> by resetting the router will this enable me to effect the changes I >> need? > > I have forgotten exactly how it was setup, but in XP with > admin priv. you can go to > start -> control panel -> network connections-> local area connection > then click on the general tab (probably there already), click on the > "internet protocol (TCP/IP)" line and select the "Properties" > button. (There are also about 6 other ways to get there). > If it is set to "Obtain an IP address automatically", > something in your network is handing out that address > via DHCP. If it is set to "Use the following IP address", > you can set the IP address to what you want it to > be for your network and it should set to that IP > address. > > mikey |
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