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Heh, I'm just now downloading the public beta for MS Office 2007 announced yesterday. I thought by now there would be some newsgroups specific to the 2007 beta software? Since beta 2 is public are we to be given access to the private (up until now) beta news groups, or will there be new, separate newsgroups appearing here on the public server and if so when? Thanks. -- "J. J." |
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It is my understanding that there will not be a newsgroup that is specific to the beta. (And I am less than thrilled with that.) -- JoAnn Paules MVP microsoft [Publisher] "JDJ" <jj@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:gkd972pc4b2e4260479scnfg4vr311aonl@4ax.com... > Heh, I'm just now downloading the public beta for MS Office 2007 > announced yesterday. > > I thought by now there would be some newsgroups specific to the 2007 > beta software? > > Since beta 2 is public are we to be given access to the private (up > until now) beta news groups, or will there be new, separate newsgroups > appearing here on the public server and if so when? > > Thanks. > > -- > > "J. J." |
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Hi JoAnn, FWIW, the nature of newsgroups is that once they are started they can't really be removed. From Google groups to the 'forums' on various websites that put their own name on the microsoft newsgroups hosted on news://msnews.microsoft.com there are a lot of 'copies' out there and turning off a group name on microsoft.com doesn't remove it from the others. ====================== <<"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <jl_paules@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message news:vsidnX0nbJHRJOnZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@suscom.com... It is my understanding that there will not be a newsgroup that is specific to the beta. (And I am less than thrilled with that.) JoAnn Paules MVP microsoft [Publisher] >> -- Let us know if this helped you, Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP >>*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends Pricing and Packages for '2007 microsoft Office System' http://microsoft.com/office/preview |
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:28:19 -0700, "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" <75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com> wrote: >FWIW, the nature of newsgroups is that once they are started they can't really be removed. No real need to REMOVE groups, why not add new ones. So the newly added groups have some permanence, rather than call them microsoft.public.office.2007.beta, miscrosoft.public.word.2007.beta you could just call them microsoft.public.office.2007, microsoft.public.word.2007 so it would be useful well into the future past the release. These groups would complement existing groups which should still stay up. >From Google groups to the 'forums' on various websites that put their own name on the >Microsoft newsgroups hosted on news://msnews.microsoft.com there are a lot of >'copies' out there and turning off a group name on microsoft.com doesn't remove it from the others. As far as I'm concerned the term or word "Newsgroup" refers to a Usenet Newsgroup which are hosted on a Usenet News server and can be accessed with a Usenet Newsreader. Many Usenet servers all over the planet sync (very quickly). How all the Usenet servers sync is too technical for me. I DO know that the administrator of a News server can decide what groups to host and what groups not to host, and has control over retention - (how long messages stay on the server before they roll off because of disk space). Microsoft carries 2,275 Usenet Newsgroups on the Usenet news Server msnews.microsoft.com, not counting beta and other private news groups I have no way of knowing about. But because of who they are, and the fact that they keep their server public (at last the 2,275) a few more groups specific to Office 2007 isn't going to be a big deal. Also, because of who they are, I know that almost every single one of the public microsoft Newsgroups on their server msnews.microsoft.com are mirrored in practically real time on both of my other News Servers, the one supplied by my ISP and another one I pay for. GigaNews, is a Usenet News server you have to pay for and which is expensive, but is famous because it carries so many groups, and because its retention is good. My ISP Adelphia is a GigaNews Reseller, and while I monthly transfers are limited to 5GB I assume they carry all the groups GigaNews has to offer because I have access to 105,699 from Adelphia. I assume retention is similar to GigaNews. My other News server is cheaper than GigaNews and only carries 31,588 groups, but they carry almost every single one of Microsoft's Newsgroups. If microsoft adds any public newsgroups to its own server you can pretty much guarantee that they will be picked up by almost all the other News servers on the planet except specialty servers that are private. This isn't true for example of the Newsgroups on the news Server forums.macromedia.com. My ISP doesn't carry most of them. I'm sure microsoft has in place a procedure for updating their web interface to these same groups which you access with your browser (way more inefficient than using a Newsreader) with any new groups they carry. As for Google Groups, I think Google actually has some Groups, they are trying to set up, which are pretty inferior to say Yahoo Groups, which are basically email lists that can be accessed by email subscription or by a web interface but not by a Usenet Newsreader (not as far as I know). When you do a search on Google Groups, I think you are also searching a historical database of actual Usenet Newsgroup postings. This used to be Deja news before Google took it over. . -- "J. J." |
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There won't be any Office 2007-specific newsgroups if currently plans don't change. Ask any questions on the most appropriate existing Office-related public newsgroups. Andrew Watt MVP On Wed, 24 May 2006 15:42:59 -0400, JDJ <jj@invalid.invalid> wrote: >Heh, I'm just now downloading the public beta for MS Office 2007 >announced yesterday. > >I thought by now there would be some newsgroups specific to the 2007 >beta software? > >Since beta 2 is public are we to be given access to the private (up >until now) beta news groups, or will there be new, separate newsgroups >appearing here on the public server and if so when? > >Thanks. |
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:38:32 +0100, "Andrew Watt [MVP]" <SVGDeveloper@aol.com> wrote: >There won't be any Office 2007-specific newsgroups if currently plans >don't change. While I'd like to see Office 2007 Newsgroups (which could be left up after release) since they don't exist, I have set up WATCH filters in my Newsreader Forte Agent, for all the existing Office Groups with the filter based on Subject: = 2007 or beta Still there are a ton of messages everyday in all these groups, which have nothing to do with Office 2007. Even a single new Newsgroup, entitled microsoft.public.office.2007 would be better than wading through not just this group microsoft.public.office.misc, but groups for all the individual modules where 2007 posts may be lurking. -- "J. J." |
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