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Hello world, especially microsoft experts ...

I'm trying for at least two weeks long to find a cure for the AMAZING
:(((( delayed variable expansion feature. Almost all things do work in my
batch script, except one thing - EXCLAMATION MARK.

I have found one man's notes for bacth files and now I can echo
exclamation mark when delayed variable expansion is ON. But I cannot echo
the exclamation mark that is part of a variable:

*************************************************
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion

ECHO D:\^^!Backup

- this will show D:\!Backup on the screen => OK

*************************************************

setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
SET BackupDirRoot=D:\^^!Backup
ECHO %BackupDirRoot%

- this will show D:\Backup on the screen => BAD BAD BAD

*************************************************

The thing is that in the script I have to almost everytime disable and
enable delayedvariableexpansion feature, not talking about the thing to be
carefull where to use %variable% and where to use !variable!
:((((((((((((((((

If someone knows how to get out of this MS mess, I would be very gratefull
to him, but otherwise, people, you must understand that after almost a
month of searching on the net how to solve this and being nearly at the
same point, I cannot say that this feature is GOOD or better said: WELL
DONE !!! :((

"Michael Knight"

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"Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
news:op.tavf1yo8sj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
> Hello world, especially microsoft experts ...
>
> I'm trying for at least two weeks long to find a cure for the AMAZING
> :(((( delayed variable expansion feature. Almost all things do work in my
> batch script, except one thing - EXCLAMATION MARK.
>
> I have found one man's notes for bacth files and now I can echo
> exclamation mark when delayed variable expansion is ON. But I cannot echo
> the exclamation mark that is part of a variable:
>
> *************************************************
> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
>
> ECHO D:\^^!Backup
>
> - this will show D:\!Backup on the screen => OK
>
> *************************************************
>
> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
> SET BackupDirRoot=D:\^^!Backup
> ECHO %BackupDirRoot%
>
> - this will show D:\Backup on the screen => BAD BAD BAD
>
> *************************************************
>
> The thing is that in the script I have to almost everytime disable and
> enable delayedvariableexpansion feature, not talking about the thing to be
> carefull where to use %variable% and where to use !variable!
> :((((((((((((((((
>
> If someone knows how to get out of this MS mess, I would be very gratefull
> to him, but otherwise, people, you must understand that after almost a
> month of searching on the net how to solve this and being nearly at the
> same point, I cannot say that this feature is GOOD or better said: WELL
> DONE !!! :((
>
> "Michael Knight"
>
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

I suspect you have stumbled over a limitation of batch
files using delayed variable expansion. Try not to use it -
AFAIK, you can always avoid it by calling subroutines.
You might also repost your question in alt.msdos.batch.nt.
This is where the batch file experts hang out. They would
love the challenge!


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Hi,

When I do enable DelayedVariableExpansion feauture, the varibale is (in a
FOR cycle or IF command) not updated and the system does not know
!variable!, only %variable% :(
OK, I will post this issue at the suggested phorum and if I will know
more, I will keep you updated .

Many thanks !

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:37:56 +0200, Pegasus (MVP) <I.can@fly.com> wrote:
>
> "Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
> news:op.tavf1yo8sj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
>> Hello world, especially microsoft experts ...
>>
>> I'm trying for at least two weeks long to find a cure for the AMAZING
>> :(((( delayed variable expansion feature. Almost all things do work in
>> my
>> batch script, except one thing - EXCLAMATION MARK.
>>
>> I have found one man's notes for bacth files and now I can echo
>> exclamation mark when delayed variable expansion is ON. But I cannot
>> echo
>> the exclamation mark that is part of a variable:
>>
>> *************************************************
>> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
>>
>> ECHO D:\^^!Backup
>>
>> - this will show D:\!Backup on the screen => OK
>>
>> *************************************************
>>
>> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
>> SET BackupDirRoot=D:\^^!Backup
>> ECHO %BackupDirRoot%
>>
>> - this will show D:\Backup on the screen => BAD BAD BAD
>>
>> *************************************************
>>
>> The thing is that in the script I have to almost everytime disable and
>> enable delayedvariableexpansion feature, not talking about the thing to
>> be
>> carefull where to use %variable% and where to use !variable!
>> :((((((((((((((((
>>
>> If someone knows how to get out of this MS mess, I would be very
>> gratefull
>> to him, but otherwise, people, you must understand that after almost a
>> month of searching on the net how to solve this and being nearly at the
>> same point, I cannot say that this feature is GOOD or better said: WELL
>> DONE !!! :((
>>
>> "Michael Knight"
>>
>> --
>> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>
> I suspect you have stumbled over a limitation of batch
> files using delayed variable expansion. Try not to use it -
> AFAIK, you can always avoid it by calling subroutines.
> You might also repost your question in alt.msdos.batch.nt.
> This is where the batch file experts hang out. They would
> love the challenge!
>
>

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I am quite aware of this. That's why I suggested subroutines -
they are not affected by this issue because they do not
require !variables!.


"Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
news:op.tavijokpsj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
> Hi,
>
> When I do enable DelayedVariableExpansion feauture, the varibale is (in a
> FOR cycle or IF command) not updated and the system does not know
> !variable!, only %variable% :(
> OK, I will post this issue at the suggested phorum and if I will know
> more, I will keep you updated .
>
> Many thanks !
>
> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:37:56 +0200, Pegasus (MVP) <I.can@fly.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
> > news:op.tavf1yo8sj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
> >> Hello world, especially microsoft experts ...
> >>
> >> I'm trying for at least two weeks long to find a cure for the AMAZING
> >> :(((( delayed variable expansion feature. Almost all things do work in
> >> my
> >> batch script, except one thing - EXCLAMATION MARK.
> >>
> >> I have found one man's notes for bacth files and now I can echo
> >> exclamation mark when delayed variable expansion is ON. But I cannot
> >> echo
> >> the exclamation mark that is part of a variable:
> >>
> >> *************************************************
> >> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
> >>
> >> ECHO D:\^^!Backup
> >>
> >> - this will show D:\!Backup on the screen => OK
> >>
> >> *************************************************
> >>
> >> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
> >> SET BackupDirRoot=D:\^^!Backup
> >> ECHO %BackupDirRoot%
> >>
> >> - this will show D:\Backup on the screen => BAD BAD BAD
> >>
> >> *************************************************
> >>
> >> The thing is that in the script I have to almost everytime disable and
> >> enable delayedvariableexpansion feature, not talking about the thing to
> >> be
> >> carefull where to use %variable% and where to use !variable!
> >> :((((((((((((((((
> >>
> >> If someone knows how to get out of this MS mess, I would be very
> >> gratefull
> >> to him, but otherwise, people, you must understand that after almost a
> >> month of searching on the net how to solve this and being nearly at the
> >> same point, I cannot say that this feature is GOOD or better said: WELL
> >> DONE !!! :((
> >>
> >> "Michael Knight"
> >>
> >> --
> >> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
> >
> > I suspect you have stumbled over a limitation of batch
> > files using delayed variable expansion. Try not to use it -
> > AFAIK, you can always avoid it by calling subroutines.
> > You might also repost your question in alt.msdos.batch.nt.
> > This is where the batch file experts hang out. They would
> > love the challenge!
> >
> >
>
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


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I can't access alt.msdos.batch.nt server (is it a news server ?), even not
via internet browser. Even alt.msdos.batch site ...
Any help ? Has it gone ?

Thanks for the feedback

"Michael Knight"

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:29:30 +0200, Pegasus (MVP) <I.can@fly.com> wrote:

> I am quite aware of this. That's why I suggested subroutines -
> they are not affected by this issue because they do not
> require !variables!.
>
>
> "Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
> news:op.tavijokpsj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I do enable DelayedVariableExpansion feauture, the varibale is (in
>> a
>> FOR cycle or IF command) not updated and the system does not know
>> !variable!, only %variable% :(
>> OK, I will post this issue at the suggested phorum and if I will know
>> more, I will keep you updated .
>>
>> Many thanks !
>>
>> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:37:56 +0200, Pegasus (MVP) <I.can@fly.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > "Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
>> > news:op.tavf1yo8sj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
>> >> Hello world, especially microsoft experts ...
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying for at least two weeks long to find a cure for the AMAZING
>> >> :(((( delayed variable expansion feature. Almost all things do work
>> in
>> >> my
>> >> batch script, except one thing - EXCLAMATION MARK.
>> >>
>> >> I have found one man's notes for bacth files and now I can echo
>> >> exclamation mark when delayed variable expansion is ON. But I cannot
>> >> echo
>> >> the exclamation mark that is part of a variable:
>> >>
>> >> *************************************************
>> >> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
>> >>
>> >> ECHO D:\^^!Backup
>> >>
>> >> - this will show D:\!Backup on the screen => OK
>> >>
>> >> *************************************************
>> >>
>> >> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
>> >> SET BackupDirRoot=D:\^^!Backup
>> >> ECHO %BackupDirRoot%
>> >>
>> >> - this will show D:\Backup on the screen => BAD BAD BAD
>> >>
>> >> *************************************************
>> >>
>> >> The thing is that in the script I have to almost everytime disable
>> and
>> >> enable delayedvariableexpansion feature, not talking about the thing
>> to
>> >> be
>> >> carefull where to use %variable% and where to use !variable!
>> >> :((((((((((((((((
>> >>
>> >> If someone knows how to get out of this MS mess, I would be very
>> >> gratefull
>> >> to him, but otherwise, people, you must understand that after almost
>> a
>> >> month of searching on the net how to solve this and being nearly at
>> the
>> >> same point, I cannot say that this feature is GOOD or better said:
>> WELL
>> >> DONE !!! :((
>> >>
>> >> "Michael Knight"
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>> >
>> > I suspect you have stumbled over a limitation of batch
>> > files using delayed variable expansion. Try not to use it -
>> > AFAIK, you can always avoid it by calling subroutines.
>> > You might also repost your question in alt.msdos.batch.nt.
>> > This is where the batch file experts hang out. They would
>> > love the challenge!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>
>



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The usual way is to create a newsgroup account in
Outlook Express. You need to specify your IPS's
news server - it is usually something like news.MyISP.com.cz.
Ask your ISP if you cannot work it out. After specifying
the news server, you can select any of around 55,000
newsgroups, e.g. alt.msdos.batch.nt.

Remember that you can avoid delayed expansion issues,
by using subroutines. The two examples below do exactly
the same thing. Unfortunately the second example takes
about 200 times longer to run . . .

@echo off
setlocal EnableDelayedExpansion
set sum=0
for /L %%a in (1,1,100) do set /a sum=!sum! + %%a
echo Sum=%sum%
endlocal

@echo off
set sum=0
for /L %%a in (1,1,100) do call :Sub %%a
echo Sum=%sum%
goto :eof

:Sub
set /a sum=%sum% + %1


"Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
news:op.ta1a0rmbsj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
> I can't access alt.msdos.batch.nt server (is it a news server ?), even not
> via internet browser. Even alt.msdos.batch site ...
> Any help ? Has it gone ?
>
> Thanks for the feedback
>
> "Michael Knight"
>
> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:29:30 +0200, Pegasus (MVP) <I.can@fly.com> wrote:
>
> > I am quite aware of this. That's why I suggested subroutines -
> > they are not affected by this issue because they do not
> > require !variables!.
> >
> >
> > "Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
> > news:op.tavijokpsj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> When I do enable DelayedVariableExpansion feauture, the varibale is (in
> >> a
> >> FOR cycle or IF command) not updated and the system does not know
> >> !variable!, only %variable% :(
> >> OK, I will post this issue at the suggested phorum and if I will know
> >> more, I will keep you updated .
> >>
> >> Many thanks !
> >>
> >> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 11:37:56 +0200, Pegasus (MVP) <I.can@fly.com>
wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Michael.Knight" <Michael.Knight@email.cz> wrote in message
> >> > news:op.tavf1yo8sj1eug@czprg-radousj.eu.uis.unisys.com...
> >> >> Hello world, especially microsoft experts ...
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm trying for at least two weeks long to find a cure for the
AMAZING
> >> >> :(((( delayed variable expansion feature. Almost all things do work
> >> in
> >> >> my
> >> >> batch script, except one thing - EXCLAMATION MARK.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have found one man's notes for bacth files and now I can echo
> >> >> exclamation mark when delayed variable expansion is ON. But I cannot
> >> >> echo
> >> >> the exclamation mark that is part of a variable:
> >> >>
> >> >> *************************************************
> >> >> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
> >> >>
> >> >> ECHO D:\^^!Backup
> >> >>
> >> >> - this will show D:\!Backup on the screen => OK
> >> >>
> >> >> *************************************************
> >> >>
> >> >> setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
> >> >> SET BackupDirRoot=D:\^^!Backup
> >> >> ECHO %BackupDirRoot%
> >> >>
> >> >> - this will show D:\Backup on the screen => BAD BAD BAD
> >> >>
> >> >> *************************************************
> >> >>
> >> >> The thing is that in the script I have to almost everytime disable
> >> and
> >> >> enable delayedvariableexpansion feature, not talking about the thing
> >> to
> >> >> be
> >> >> carefull where to use %variable% and where to use !variable!
> >> >> :((((((((((((((((
> >> >>
> >> >> If someone knows how to get out of this MS mess, I would be very
> >> >> gratefull
> >> >> to him, but otherwise, people, you must understand that after almost
> >> a
> >> >> month of searching on the net how to solve this and being nearly at
> >> the
> >> >> same point, I cannot say that this feature is GOOD or better said:
> >> WELL
> >> >> DONE !!! :((
> >> >>
> >> >> "Michael Knight"
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:
http://www.opera.com/mail/
> >> >
> >> > I suspect you have stumbled over a limitation of batch
> >> > files using delayed variable expansion. Try not to use it -
> >> > AFAIK, you can always avoid it by calling subroutines.
> >> > You might also repost your question in alt.msdos.batch.nt.
> >> > This is where the batch file experts hang out. They would
> >> > love the challenge!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


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