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I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another old computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? Derek |
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"Derek" <derektonkin@hotmail.com> wrote: |> |>I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on |>the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the |>(genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost the |>original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another old |>computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old computer to provide a |>qualifying product e.g. by USB link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? It's been a long while but I think the upgrade looks for the file Win.com (or that was 95 to 98) -- Diet Coke Mentos Thing http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5695044769427318137 |
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Derek wrote: > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh > install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard > drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an > upgrade and I have lost the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this > WIN 98 SE installed on another old computer. Can I somehow use the > files on the old computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB > link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? No. If I were in your shoes I would just buy an inexpensive used copy of Windows 98. -- Ken Blake - microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup |
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:05:55 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP pondered exceedingly, then took quill in hand and carefully composed... | Derek wrote: | | > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh | > install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard | > drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an | > upgrade and I have lost the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this | > WIN 98 SE installed on another old computer. Can I somehow use the | > files on the old computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB | > link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? | | | No. If I were in your shoes I would just buy an inexpensive used copy of | windows 98. Or borrow one. ChrisM |
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I just threw away about 75 copies of Win98 at work..Should have kept a few Gary "Chris May" <ChrisM@shangri-la.com> wrote in message news:7fem82dt6etnm62c5geqslm8rqlmg72s9v@4ax.com... > On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:05:55 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP pondered exceedingly, > then > took quill in hand and carefully composed... > > | Derek wrote: > | > | > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh > | > install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard > | > drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an > | > upgrade and I have lost the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this > | > WIN 98 SE installed on another old computer. Can I somehow use the > | > files on the old computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB > | > link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? > | > | > | No. If I were in your shoes I would just buy an inexpensive used copy > of > | windows 98. > > Or borrow one. > > ChrisM |
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Should have kept them all. They are still in reasonable demand. $20 to $40 each or so on E-Bay, I believe. Gary wrote: > I just threw away about 75 copies of Win98 at work..Should have kept a few > > Gary > > "Chris May" <ChrisM@shangri-la.com> wrote in message > news:7fem82dt6etnm62c5geqslm8rqlmg72s9v@4ax.com... > >>On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:05:55 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP pondered exceedingly, >>then >>took quill in hand and carefully composed... >> >>| Derek wrote: >>| >>| > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh >>| > install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard >>| > drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an >>| > upgrade and I have lost the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this >>| > WIN 98 SE installed on another old computer. Can I somehow use the >>| > files on the old computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB >>| > link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? >>| >>| >>| No. If I were in your shoes I would just buy an inexpensive used copy >>of >>| windows 98. >> >>Or borrow one. >> >>ChrisM > > > |
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Should have kept them all. They are still in reasonable demand. $20 to $40 each or so on E-Bay, I believe. Gary wrote: > I just threw away about 75 copies of Win98 at work..Should have kept a few > > Gary > > "Chris May" <ChrisM@shangri-la.com> wrote in message > news:7fem82dt6etnm62c5geqslm8rqlmg72s9v@4ax.com... > >>On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:05:55 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP pondered exceedingly, >>then >>took quill in hand and carefully composed... >> >>| Derek wrote: >>| >>| > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh >>| > install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard >>| > drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an >>| > upgrade and I have lost the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this >>| > WIN 98 SE installed on another old computer. Can I somehow use the >>| > files on the old computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB >>| > link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? >>| >>| >>| No. If I were in your shoes I would just buy an inexpensive used copy >>of >>| windows 98. >> >>Or borrow one. >> >>ChrisM > > > |
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Should have kept them all. They are still in reasonable demand. $20 to $40 each or so on E-Bay, I believe. Gary wrote: > I just threw away about 75 copies of Win98 at work..Should have kept a few > > Gary > > "Chris May" <ChrisM@shangri-la.com> wrote in message > news:7fem82dt6etnm62c5geqslm8rqlmg72s9v@4ax.com... > >>On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:05:55 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP pondered exceedingly, >>then >>took quill in hand and carefully composed... >> >>| Derek wrote: >>| >>| > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh >>| > install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard >>| > drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an >>| > upgrade and I have lost the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this >>| > WIN 98 SE installed on another old computer. Can I somehow use the >>| > files on the old computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB >>| > link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? >>| >>| >>| No. If I were in your shoes I would just buy an inexpensive used copy >>of >>| windows 98. >> >>Or borrow one. >> >>ChrisM > > > |
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Derek wrote: > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on > the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the > (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost the > original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another old > computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old computer to provide a > qualifying product e.g. by USB link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? > > Derek You need to insert a CD of a qualifying product when asked. -- Rock MS MVP windows - Shell/User |
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I doubt that would be easy, although it may be possible. It would be simpler to borrow an install CD, or a CD-R copy of one. (You won't need the install key for the older OS, just for XP.) That may violate the license agreement for an XP upgrade, as I believe that "qualifying media" is only supposed to be used with a single upgrade license. However, that much of what microsoft calls "casual piracy" is still possible for non-experts. (I have a single XP installation at home, and at least two qualifying OS CDs, so I've not had occasion to break any rules. I use a CD-R copy of my Win98 CD to avoid handling the original. The xp home CD is a copy with SP2 slipstreamed onto it, as the original predates SP1.) Address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn. "Derek" <derektonkin@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6_OdnUnWSc9XtRbZRVnyrQ@bt.com... > > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on > the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the > (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost > the original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another > old computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old computer to provide a > qualifying product e.g. by USB link or burning some of them on to a > CD-ROM? > > Derek > |
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"Derek" <derektonkin@hotmail.com> wrote: > >I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on >the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the >(genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost the >original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another old >computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old computer to provide a >qualifying product e.g. by USB link or burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? > >Derek > Partition and format the new drive (so as to keep the drive letters straight after the install). Install the drive from the old computer as secondary master drive and put the CDROM as slave on either the primary or secondary IDE. Boot from the xp home Upgrade CD and select the new hard drive for the install. When it asks for a qualifying product direct it to the second hard drive. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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Thanks for all these bright ideas. There is a dearth of Win 98 SE cds on UK E-bay - mostly US products, at a price. I like the idea below best. Derek "Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message news:vq8n82djs92etf4i5t8loqam51qmat06gp@4ax.com... > "Derek" <derektonkin@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on >>the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the >>(genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost >>the >>original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another old >>computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old computer to provide a >>qualifying product e.g. by USB link or burning some of them on to a >>CD-ROM? >> >>Derek >> > > Partition and format the new drive (so as to keep the drive letters > straight after the install). > > install the drive from the old computer as secondary master drive and > put the CDROM as slave on either the primary or secondary IDE. > > Boot from the xp home Upgrade CD and select the new hard drive for the > install. When it asks for a qualifying product direct it to the > second hard drive. > > Good luck > > Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada > -- > microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) > On-Line Help computer Service > http://onlinehelp.bc.ca > > "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference > has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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You don't need windows 98SE (emphasis on ***SE***). The only thing that the CD is used for is to validate that you are entitled to perform the update. ***NO*** files are actually used from the CD as part of the new install. So windows 98 (1st Edition) is as good as 98SE. So, also, would be an ME CD. Derek wrote: > Thanks for all these bright ideas. There is a dearth of Win 98 SE cds on UK > E-bay - mostly US products, at a price. I like the idea below best. > > Derek > > > "Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:vq8n82djs92etf4i5t8loqam51qmat06gp@4ax.com... > >>"Derek" <derektonkin@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on >>>the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the >>>(genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost >>>the >>>original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another old >>>computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old computer to provide a >>>qualifying product e.g. by USB link or burning some of them on to a >>>CD-ROM? >>> >>>Derek >>> >> >>Partition and format the new drive (so as to keep the drive letters >>straight after the install). >> >>Install the drive from the old computer as secondary master drive and >>put the CDROM as slave on either the primary or secondary IDE. >> >>Boot from the xp home Upgrade CD and select the new hard drive for the >>install. When it asks for a qualifying product direct it to the >>second hard drive. >> >>Good luck >> >>Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada >>-- >>Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) >>On-Line Help computer Service >>http://onlinehelp.bc.ca >> >>"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference >>has never been in bed with a mosquito." > > > |
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Barry Watzman wrote: > You don't need windows 98SE (emphasis on ***SE***). The only thing > that the CD is used for is to validate that you are entitled to > perform the update. ***NO*** files are actually used from the CD as > part of the new install. So windows 98 (1st Edition) is as good as > 98SE. So, also, would be an ME CD. Actually, you can even use windows 95, which is likely to be cheaper still. You can't upgrade over the top of windows 95, but you can use it as proof of ownership of a previous qualifyng version when doing a clean installation. -- Ken Blake - microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup > Derek wrote: > >> Thanks for all these bright ideas. There is a dearth of Win 98 SE cds on >> UK E-bay - mostly US products, at a price. I like the idea >> below best. Derek >> >> >> "Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:vq8n82djs92etf4i5t8loqam51qmat06gp@4ax.com... >> >>> "Derek" <derektonkin@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh >>>> install on the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard >>>> drive. I have the (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an >>>> upgrade and I have lost the >>>> original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on >>>> another old computer. Can I somehow use the files on the old >>>> computer to provide a qualifying product e.g. by USB link or >>>> burning some of them on to a CD-ROM? >>>> >>>> Derek >>>> >>> >>> Partition and format the new drive (so as to keep the drive letters >>> straight after the install). >>> >>> install the drive from the old computer as secondary master drive >>> and put the CDROM as slave on either the primary or secondary IDE. >>> >>> Boot from the xp home Upgrade CD and select the new hard drive for >>> the install. When it asks for a qualifying product direct it to the >>> second hard drive. >>> >>> Good luck >>> >>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada >>> -- >>> microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) >>> On-Line Help computer Service >>> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca >>> >>> "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference >>> has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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Derek wrote: > > I need to replace my hard drive and would prefer to do a fresh install on > the same computer rather than "clone" the existing hard drive. I have the > (genuine) original WIN xp home CD, but it is an upgrade and I have lost the > original WIN 98 SE CD. But I have this WIN 98 SE installed on another old Pick up a win98se cd. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/ |
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